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This seems strangely familiar... by PluckyNinja This seems strangely familiar... by PluckyNinja
The whole brony fandom seems to be boiling over with controversy over the whole ending spoiler for MLP Season 3 controversy. I've remained somewhat quiet on my blogs about it, and even though only a handful of people out there likely care, I figured it's about time I dropped my two cents into the conversation, and I'll do my best to stay on point without devolving this into a list of complaints.

Personally, I do not like the direction that the show is heading in, and with the grapevine info being that Hasbro is taking away creative control from the show's crew in order to advertise the toys more aggressively, my enthusiasm towards the final two episodes has been damaged. However, what I think has made things all the worse is seeing the fandom at war with itself, and people on both sides of the argument resorting to hyperbolic attacks against each other.

If the finale for Season 3 really is the show's jump the shark moment, as many people have argued, then it's a shame, but it should also serve as a reminder of why we should not let ourselves get too emotionally invested with our entertainment. As a Mass Effect fan, I saw that fandom go through the exact same thing last year, and it was not pretty, and the arguing within the fandom by itself would have been enough to reduce everyone's enjoyment of the franchise regardless of what their stance on the ending was, even when the ending itself is removed from the equation.

If you enjoy the idea behind the ending for MLP season 3, more power to you. Just please have some consideration for the fans who feel hurt and betrayed by it, because rubbing it in or goading them to leave the fandom will not make things better. If you hate the ending, you have a right to be upset, but that does not mean you have to act like the world is ending. At the end of the day, this is just a TV show. I have loved quite a few series in my lifetime that were sadly not able to end on a high note, be they movies, books, shows or games. If our worst fears about the show come to fruition, it won't be the first time, and it won't be the last. Being disappointed over the series that I enjoyed either being canceled or jumping the shark was part of why I became an artist and started writing my own stories in the first place, and I am looking forward to sharing my own stories and characters with you all in the future.

I am just a little burnt out from all the drama, and feel like I need to take a break for a little while and focus on some of my other projects. My enthusiasm for the show may be dwindling in light of recent events, but I still very much consider myself a Brony at heart, and hopefully I will continue to do so long after the show is gone, and I am certainly not going away just because I am disappointed with the direction the show is currently moving in. You can still look forward to seeing Pony art from me.

I believe our fandom is strong. Regardless of what happens to the show, I believe the fandom will survive. Maybe it's time we found out if the MLP fandom really is something that has grown bigger than the show itself, because sooner or later that will be put to the test, whether it's a potentially shark-jumping episode now or outright cancellation later.

Keep calm, and Brony on.
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Johnyvill Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014
I just got done replaying the trilogy... and you know what, after going over the 100+ hours again? I'M STILL PISSED OFF AND FEEL CHEATED! At first I didn't expect a happy ending, I a least expected a bittersweet ending that would bring closure to the trilogy... BUT AFTER ALL THE CRAP I JUST WENT THREW- WHY THE HELL NOT A HAPPY ENDING!? I WANNA BUILD A HOUSE ON RANNOCH WITH TALI AND ALL MY GETH BROS! AND CRACK THAT BEER WITH GARRUS ON A BEACH WITH MY KROGAN BROS! HAVE MORE PARTIES ON THE CITADEL! I SAY SHEPARD HAS BLOODY WELL EARNED IT AFTER 5 DAMN YEARS!
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Zelda-Lover306 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
My issue with Twilight becoming an Alicorn is not so much that it happened, no no no, I'm fine with that (mainly cause I've seen things like this happen a million times before, so I knew it was going to happen, but I'll explain that in a second). It's the fact that so many people seem to be forgetting one simple little fact.... This show was originally designed for little girls around the age of 5. We also seem to be forgetting that just because we are fans of the series, does not mean that we own any form of rights to what happens in it. We can, of course, petition for certain things, like keeping certain characters like Derpy Hooves in the show, and that's fine, but beyond that, we don't control what happens in the show.

As for how I could practically tell it was going to happen.... I didn't honestly know Twilight would become an alicorn, but when I considered this was a show meant for little girls, I immediately knew that something big was going to happen, at some point, and considering a bunch of factors about twilight, like how she's Princess Celestia's best student, she helped save Equestria at least 3 times, she tends to be one of the most powerful unicorns in equestria, you know, things that the show made obvious, she probably was the most likely candidate for the big event in question.

Now, don't take any of this the wrong way, I'm honestly not trying to sound smug or anything like that (though I probably am, knowing my luck), I'm just trying to illustrate a point. Whether we like it or not, something like this was bound to happen, simply because of what the shows target audience was. Most little girls love to see stuff like this happen. Why do you think movies like Cinderella are so popular among little girls?

Now, I fully understand, and maybe even sympathies (i think I spelled that right) with them a little bit. I can imagine felling a little hurt or betrayed by something like this. But, sometimes, that happens, whether you like it or not, it sometimes happens. And when it does happen, it shouldn't stop us from enjoying the series.
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SugarHoneyIceTea123 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
Ah, but now we have the refusal option: Buck Celestia in the face. (And subsequently destroy all of ponykind)
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TheBluebird27 Featured By Owner May 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One day. A brony will rise that will unite all the bronies in a fan series so epic it will rock the fandom to its very core in a tidal wave of epic proportions.
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tbaransk Featured By Owner May 23, 2013
This looks like the choices Red Eye would get at the end of Fallout Equestria if he was the main protagonist.
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Twinsnake-Coatl Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013
I'm just surprised that someone else actually remembered that alicorns are meant to have the combined traits of all three pony races.
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SolidSanchez Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
I fully agree.

Also, I find it ironic how "Twilight turning into an Alicorn" is, in fact, a plot used BY fans countless times! How many fanfics out there about this change of Twilight's character? But then the show does the exact same thing... Ouch, epic drama ensues.
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PluckyNinja Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
I never liked fanfics where she becomes an alicorn, which is part of why I dreaded the possibility of it happening in the show.
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SolidSanchez Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
Well, yeah, most of them were poorly written.

Still, as you said, it's not the end of the world. Not even the end of the show. =) I can't wait to see what season 4 has for us. I don't understand why they desided to turn her into alicorn now, but, well, I can deal with it.
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MyLittlePrimo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
I'm conflicted between "control" & "destroy."
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teh-j0ey Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
:iconjohnshepardplz::iconsaysplz:Sister, you don't know the half of it.:iconsaysendplz:
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fieldmarshal Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
faved. cause i agree.
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andrewtheOwl Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
You're forgetting an option: "I should go..." Har har har...

Honestly though, I don't really know how to express myself about this situation and theories based on it. But, the "..it is just a TV show.." outlook doesn't quite register as an outlook on this, for me. It'd be because I'm very passionate about the things I enjoy, whether it be shows, games, food, the pony plushies I make, all that jazz. Jumping the shark however, that scares me alot, especially on a fantastic show like MLP. Granted, I still don't have a full grasp on this picture. So I have no real room to speak.

Overall, I don't know what to make of what information we bronies do have towards the season finale, nor do I know how to feel about it. But, I've accepted I can't do anything about it, all ah'm gonna do is chill out, see what happens, good or bad, and brony on.....with my plushies. :iconmoregodotplz:
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Coobalt-Dahonli-One Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
This! This! Anything nut not THIS!!! NOT MASS EFFECT 3'S ENDING!!!

Erm... Seriously, I would choose mergin' pegasi with earth ponies, but only because it's much more different than synthesis.

I actually chose Destroy. But where is the refuse option?
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Coobalt-Dahonli-One Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
As for the Twilicorn buisness, I am against it, but I am just searching for Anti-Twilicorn fans who have good arguments soz I can reinforce our side.

It's like the whole Templar vs Assassins war in AC. In this case, we are the assassins, but we also are thy ones who look bad. C'mon, not every Anti-Twilicorn fan is a crybaby.
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MyLittlePrimo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
:) Against the Anti-Twilicorn business, you say?
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Coobalt-Dahonli-One Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
No. I said that I was against the PRO-TWILICORN side, not against the ANTI-TWILICORN side.

If you're trying to make me switch side, then you are wasting your time.

Sorry, really sorry if I sounds rude. I don't want to insult you.
But I can't stop looking at all those guys bowing before the so called "Purple overlord". This thing is making me crazy.
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MyLittlePrimo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
:oops: Apparently, anti- must've been typed by mistake. Furthermore, if what you say is true, then let me suggest that you have a look at the following group (and surely you won't forget to read its group info):
:icontheanticorn65group:
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Coobalt-Dahonli-One Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
No thanks. I'm already working on my own group with a friend of mine.
We prefer a more "pacifical" approach. The thing I want to avoid the most is to pass as a hater.
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MyLittlePrimo Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
:( I see. Well, good luck with that.
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Sonicmario Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
Apparently, Twilight was planned to become an alicorn from the beginning of the series. Or so I'm told.
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PluckyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Lauren Faust has remained silent as to what her original plans were for Twilight, so anything you may have read about it is speculation. Given Faust's tendency to defy and subvert genre cliches though, I have a bit of a hard time believing that her plan for Twilight was just to turn her into another princess.

Personally, I would have liked to see Twilight become a great wizard without turning her into an alicorn, becoming as powerful and influential as Starswirl the Bearded and even surpassing him. My expectation was that there was something important about Twilight being a powerful unicorn that set her apart from the kind of power that the alicorn princesses have. However, whatever my expectations may have been, now is a good time to let go of them because clearly that's not what's happening.
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MyLittlePrimo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
...Or is it?!
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99-cells Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
Polymurazation!!!!
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Sonic1234567891 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconjoeywheelerplz::iconsaysplz: I see what you did there! :D
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Karda4124 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I never liked season 3. So no big deal.
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MechCL3 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
I saw this whole twilight becoming an alicorn in season one for some reason. It was the cutie mark chronicles ep that tips me off. I'm surpise no one else saw it
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thechipmunkzone Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Personally, Idk whats really going on myself...I just watch the show for its animation and humor..I personally don't really care what happens to twilight or her friends or whatever I just for once in my life would like to have a cartoon where I can be proud to say hey! this show doesn't suck and even better it lasted for this many seasons without having to slowly fade away into nothing just like all the other cartoons of today. Even if they do deside to go this route what will happen after twilight becomes princess? or any other shit like that? We've yet to hear of scoots organs or see if ANY of the CMC will ever get thier cutiemarks I'd like for the show to fallow that route for once, but it seems like Hasbro or whoever's controling this airship is saying no to the fans and yes to product placement or whatever. As for the bronies and pegastars out there that are up in arms about this..I say get a grip and shut the fuck up ITS A SHOW FOR GODS SAKES NOT A RELIGON! well, YET anyway..
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templar127 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
No "GET THE BUCK OUTTA HERE!" option? XD
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Diskens Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
I laughed when I saw this^^
It's really nice!
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masterredwood Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I personally have little to no idea what is going on? Is this about the Princess Twilight thing? I honestly don't know.
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QueenB00 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
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RogueWriter3201 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
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Tenrahsoj Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Well-said.
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lordzid Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
HA! those options dont look so ludicrous
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Nobodyspatzy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Trust me, the fandom is reacting.. to be honest, rather calmly about the whole thing, considering other things I am seeing (The whole rumor of JJ Abrams doing the new Star Wars anyone? ;p)

That said, I am anxious of not the two episodes, but what will happen AFTER from Season 4 and beyond. Will this be the beginning of things changing for the worst, or something that is merely for Twilight, and making her "more appealing" for the toy lines? We shall indeed see.

I had to comment, as last year the Mass Effect ending was, and to a certain extent, still is, a blight on the game community. Not only for those invested in the series, but the "journalists" who said we were "entitled" for wanting another, and BETTER ending! Seriously???

...but that is a rant for another day. Gamers seem distracted by the whole PS4 thing this next month, and don't remember this stuff... but I do ;p

Great piece!
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PluckyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
For better or for worse, the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy, along with "Doritogate" really cast a lot of light on the ugly private parts of gaming journalism and managed to bring some mainstream attention to it. As aggravating as that entire situation was all around, I think that it's important that customers can trust the writers of the reviews they read, and what we found out is that there are a lot of game journalists who are far more cozy with the game producers than they should be.
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Nobodyspatzy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Oh no, if anything I welcomed the cynicism, and found out which sites to trust and which were questionable. Oh and Keighley and the Duritos! yes... he is a "journalist" alright! (I will give him credit, I was NOT expecting that Dark Souls 2 announcement! OMG!!!!!!)

Still even with which guys were exposed or not, the look into the review process was certainly eye-opening...I for one and now far more careful in what I buy ;p
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moonlightavenger Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
AAAAAH! Cannot unsee!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
You're jinxing us!

What I don't like in all of this alicorn stuff is that it turns the Princesses into "normal" ponies.
I liked the "deity" idea more.

But this whole "ascension into alicornhood and thus becoming a princess" has it's merits: the power they have is because they deserve it. Well, I trust the artists, but I don't trust Hasbro. And if Hasbro gets all over the cartoon, it has the potential of ruining the quality of the show.
Also: it's still too early. I doubt Twilight is on the same level as Starswirl The Bearded, and he wasn't a prince. And referencing Meghan McCarthy's interview, Blueblood sure doesn't look like a good pony that shares his gifts...
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Maddog3060 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
You have put into words the very essence of the truth of the matter. It's like you read my gorram mind; it's just a show, and while it wuld be sadif they do jump the shark, it's not the end of the world.

You mention Mass Effect, but as a fan of the BattleTech universe, we've gone through several of these sorts of things, and the fandom still remains; albeit with a very fractured fanbase. There are some who prefer t as it was originally and despise the changes made since 3rd Edition, there are those who stuck with them but hated the Clans, and there are those (like myself) who are royally peeved over the whole "Jihad" thing they just went through.

But in the end, I'm still a BattleTech fan. I'll still be an MLP:FIM fan, even if the show jumps the shark; we still have two and a half seasons of good and decent and funny cartoons to enjoy and look back on fondly. And in the end, there will always be the nutjobs like myself who will carry on with their ridiculous headcanon long after everyone else has moved on. Because I'm insane.

Keep calm, carry on, and make sure you don't burn out that brain of yours; it's clearly a well-tuned model for you to grasp the essence of this whole shebang. And if you upload any of those other projects up here, we'll look forward to 'em.
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alternatepony Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Part of me feels that it's the same people fight in public channels like it always is it the people who get to involved in a fandom. I'm not saying they like to argue but a few trolls(clever or not) and through done some negative comments on both sides. This is then followed by the inane fanboys and fangirls to become polarized leading to "a war." Which is just people quoting moments in the show and tossing insults.

But in the end the mlp fandom will be alright there will still be a few surface scars on the fandom and the people who were looking for an excuse to leave. But this season has seemed less instant classic moments or adding to the deeper narrative of character "Too Many Pinkies" had a little but for Pinkie Pie and "Apple Family Reunion" with little shout out to parents. The Scootaloo episode was only one I felt that had deeper implications, this may be due her being new writer on show.
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AllonsoBronyguy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I am reserving judgement until I see this play out. There are ways that Alicorn Twilight can go well, and ways it can go poorly.
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Jrakob Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
two things.
" If you hate the ending, you have a right to be upset, but that does not mean you have to act like the world is ending" basically what I have been saying.
And secondly I would just suggest you wait and see before throwing in the towel on this one, I mean Hasbro tells the writers to write toy episodes all the time, "pink alicorn anyone?" My point is that this is not really that strange for Hasbro or out of the ordinary aside from the fact that the choice is a main character this time around.
So like I said, just wait and see, the show might not suck, and if it does well i will personally send an apology to every person who I told to "wait and see".
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ponydesigner Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
DESTROY XD
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Poison-Trail Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
First time I'm seeing someone taking into account both sides of the conflict, I like! There's too much black and white, fans are on both extreme ends of wanting the series to burn or fiercely defending it, it's good to see some middle ground now and then!

The writers have shown that they were able to get past Hasbro's meddling (this isn't "conspiracy", but typical business) with the whole "Cadance/Shining Armour" affair, and now I can't find anyone that's not in agreement with the way it came out. At the very least, they deserve the benefit of the doubt from the entire community, lest it all become a self-fulfilling prophecy; a finale that simply cannot reach the overblown expectations of those whiteknighting for Alicorn Twilight, wide open to be demolished by those worried by the change (No, they're not "haters"). The development team deserves so much more, from all of us.
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wanderingbishop Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
To be perfectly frank though... we don't know exactly what's happening in the finale. Until the episode has actually aired and we know what happens, any discussions of whether or not it'll affect the fandom in a positive/negative way are entirely moot.
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Katamariguy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I just hope it doesn't get as bad as the Bioware fandom did. *shudders*
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PluckyNinja Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
No one has filed complaints to the Better Business Bureau or FTC yet, so at least there's that...
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MadManInTheBox Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Man, you said it on a way that I only wish I could. Damn true.

As for the show itself, I don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as everyone seems to think. Trust the writers man, trust them.
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Duckbro Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I have no issues with people being skeptical or upset. But when they start going conspiracy theory I just start raging. No matter what hasbro does, studio B will still make awesome episodes. Their track record proves this. So even if you're getting your jimmies rustled over that particular spoiler, just remember who actually made this series great. Lauren may have had the ides, but without Jayson, Wootie, Larson, Rogers, McCarthy, Sibsy, all the voice actors and of course everyone else I couldn't mention... This series would be nothing. Remember people, Lauren stepped down willingly and left control over to Jayson and Wootie. She trusts them, and she knows they know what they're doing. Have faith and wait until you actually SEE IT before raging.
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